Note from mel: this isn't full description, check out the original page please if you need information I omitted to fit(which is tips & tricks + prompting guide).
Welcome to Fifth Mix, what mix would you like to start with tonight?
[Screwdriver]: NAI (v-pred)
[Vieux Carré]: NAI (v-pred)
[Vieux Carré](Beta): NAI (v-pred)
[Banana daiquiri]: Illustrious (EPS)
[Absinthe]: Illustrious (EPS)
[Paradise]: Illustrious (EPS)
Now that you've ordered, please read the instructions below.
When using the recommended tools and settings, all versions of Fifth Mix should be usable within the same recommended values without alteration.
You are however welcome try other values, tools, and settings.
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There are other UI choices, but A1111 is seemingly abandoned, and I don't know enough about anything outside of ReForge/Forge. Comfy has a large and supportive community and I know someone will be able to help you if you chose that.
Stable Diffusion UI:
Forge
ReForge
Comfy.
Extensions:
Kohya HRFix (ESSENTIAL) built-in with ReForge/Forge
Kohya HRfix is generally required for 1.5x raw resolution and non-standard resolution generation stability.
Sometimes when using both K-HRFix and Forge Couple, they might break. In most cases, reverting K-HRFix to default settings, and/or turning off the Downscale after skip option in K-HRFix will get them working together again, it's an intermittent issue that's been easy to fix so far.
Fifth Mix [Screwdriver] and [Vieux Carré] have been thoroughly tested with this tool and I can't begin to recommend it enough.
ADetailer (ESSENTIAL) link
Sweet and simple, you know what it dose and I couldn't live without it now.
Here's the three ADetailer models I use most, and consider necessities for your library.
Forge Couple (QOL) link
(Or any alternative to it, are) One of the next most essential tools you should have available. Opening up many more options for generation, such as for couples, groups, or certain difficult image layouts that wouldn't be possible otherwise.
tag autocomplete (QOL) link
An absolute necessity everyone should have. Don't forget to change the .csv in your UI options to use the e621 tags.
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The first row of resolutions represent the base supported resolutions that all SDXL and all fine-tunes built out of it's lineage should be capable of.
But, the further away from square images, both in terms of aspect ration and resolution you move, most models become increasingly unstable without the support of tools like Kohya HRFix.
However, many newer models are slowly adding more support for higher base resolutions making more of these resolutions attainable without additional tools. I still highly recommend having access to Kohya HRFix, because raw 1.5x without Kohya HRFix can be very temperamental, resulting in very strange, impossible, grotesque and duplicate anatomy.
UI Settings:
Sampling steps: 25-50
CFG: 3-6
Sampling method | Schedule type
RECOMMENDED: Kohaku_LoNyu_Yog | KL Optimal
FALLBACK: Euler A Comfy | Align Your Steps 32
Hires. fix settings:
Upscale by: 2-2.5
Denoising strength: 0.15-0.4
Upscaler: 4x_foolhardy_Remacri
(Use lower denoising with higher upscale percentages.)
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Q&A section:
Addressing the most important question: "May I rehost Fifth Mix somewhere else?"
Tentatively, I'm fairly permissive of re-hosting Fifth Mix. But it'll always be a case-by-case basis for how comfortable I am letting it happen or remain up.
In general, as long as Fifth Mix is kept Free to download, Free to use, provides a link/credit back to this page, and the uploader isn't making money off of it. I'm probably not going to be bothered about it.
Can I merge Fifth Mix into another model?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! No need to ask, I encourage you to merge Fifth Mix.
NSFW?
Fifth Mix is intended to handle most NSFW content well, and I promise you, I thoroughly test this behind the scenes.
However due to CivitAI's absolutely asinine policies, and terrible enforcement, I chose to use mostly safe-to-lewd content to show how models will look and feel.
You're welcome to post anything you create though, I don't hide posts.
Model names why not just v1, v2, ect?
Fifth Mix is a merge compilation of models that possess traits I liked, all with differing styles, and capability. While every mix is intended to be a furry-anime fusion with a clean 2D though 2.5D anime-like style, each version is intended to have it's own slight twist. Each mix is not necessarily a progression of quality.
Why do you merge so many models like that?
Yeah, that kinda happened by accident. Before I got into merging my own models, I would typically have 50-75 models in my Stable Diffusion folder ready to use, and that's a bit much.
So I started trying to merge a few that I liked, seeing what would come out. I started like almost anyone else, mixing 2 models and seeing what happened. Then I started mixing 3, 4, 5... and so on, in a chain of merges.
Eventually I started to notice that even a little bit of one model being mixed into a chain of merges still had some fairly strong stylistic impact on a model.
At the "Fifth Mix" is where I started to see the best outputs, any more than that and the last models would start entirely eclipsing the lower weight merges near the beginning of the chain. That's how I ended up accidentally creating the merge process and name-sake of Fifth Mix. Purely by accident.
artist tags?
I think most artist tags you could imagine will work as long as they're well represented on Danbooru and e621.
For perhaps obvious reasons, I haven't tried them all and probably can't tell you if a particular artist tag works, or if it's accurate.
Will you make Fifth Mix for...
No, as of right now, Fifth Mix will only be for Illustrious and NAI. I have no current plans to create any other major branches for the series into other model lineages.
If/when Pony v7 comes to CivitAI, I'm open to that, probably... we'll see.
Any other new major models in the future, also possibly.
What's next?
The biggest thing that's been on my mind for a while now is making a successor to [Paradise] for NAI (v-pred, more than likely.)
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Credits!
A massive thank you to all the model creators out there, without whom Fifth Mix in all it's flavors would not be possible.
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Model blurbs:
A vestigial leftover from before the [Screwdriver] page overhaul. I'll keep them around, but they're not important, that's why they're way down here.
[Screwdriver]:
Fifth Mix [Screwdriver] is the next important step in my AI journey, this mix was primarily merged for it's heavy prompt stability, and style. Though this did come at the cost of the extremely deep, rich, high contrast and color depth that [Vieux Carré] could achieve, however I believe this was a worthy sacrifice.
[Vieux Carré]:
Fifth Mix [Vieux Carré] represents something I've striven to have since first getting into AI, deep, rich, dark color and lighting. That's why this mix's main focus was on enhancing color depth, saturation, and contrast using v-prediction. The styling has been mostly stabilized and cleaned up over [Vieux Carré](Beta), able to create character focused images in a modern, clean 2D anime-like style.
[Vieux Carré](Beta):
Fifth Mix [Vieux Carré](Beta) This mix is a product of my own internal testing with NoobAI v-pred models, it was never intended to be made public, but I've enjoyed using it enough that I felt I should share it. I would say it's an unstable, inconsistent model with some unique traits that might be worth trying to tame.
[Banana daiquiri]:
Fifth Mix [Banana daiquiri] stands as one of the most capable and viable Illustrious models I've mixed, this mix is an excellent 2.5D model for close character focused creations, with a focus on enhancing color depth, richness, and expressive lighting over [Absinthe].
Hey, if you've been reading all of this, thank you for checking out Fifth Mix. I hope it'll live up to your expectations.
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Notes
⦁ [Screwdriver]: All showcase images were created at 1.5x raw resolution using Kohya HRFix; upscaled 2.5x using 4x Foolhardy Remacri and ADetailer. (Half truth, all images were intended to use Kohya HRFix, a few do not, see if you can spot them!)
⦁ [Vieux Carré]: well, I guess you don't get a clean version of the cover image, every single time I've uploaded it, it gets flagged for review and this time Civit's dumb ass bot decided it breaks TOS... I'll let you make that make sense.
⦁ [Vieux Carré]: All showcase images were created at 1.25x raw resolutions and upscaled 2.5x using 4x Foolhardy Remacri and ADetailer. Showcase images with two characters also used Forge Couple to facilitate stability and image layout.
⦁ [Vieux Carré](Beta): All showcase images were created at 1.25x raw resolutions and upscaled 2.5x using 4x Foolhardy Remacri and ADetailer. Showcase images with two characters also used Forge Couple to facilitate stability and image layout.
⦁ [Banana daiquiri]: All display images are passed through HiRes with 4x Foolhardy Remacri at 2.5x/2.75x upscaling, and then hit with various ADetailer models as needed.