Note from Mel:
This isn't the full, original description - mainly because the original one is too long and has more advanced formatting than Tensor can take(and it also has embedded images which are also a no-no here), so if you decide to try this model I really, really recommend you to check the original creator's page under the Project Permissions and read - there you'll find everything you need to know regarding this absolute gem of a model.
Fifth Mix
Fifth Mix is a furry focused, anime capable merge model that comes in several different flavors for you to enjoy.
I want to extend a personal thankyou to LatteLeopard for the amazing BANANA SPLITZ model. Please check it out, I think you'll enjoy it.
Version names? Why not v1, v2, ect?
Fifth Mix is a merge compilation of models with traits I like, mixed to reach differing goals of styles and capability. Each mix isn't necessarily a progression of quality, but simply mixed for different preferential uses.
Fifth Mix [Vieux Carré]: This mix's main focus was on enhancing color depth, saturation, and contrast using v-prediction. The style has been mostly stabilized and cleaned up over (betamix), able to create character focused images in a modern, clean 2D anime-like style.
Fifth Mix [Vieux Carré](Betamix): This mix is a product of my own internal testing with NoobAI v-pred models, it was never intended to be made public, but I've enjoyed using it enough that I felt I should share it. I would say it's an unstable, inconsistent model with some unique traits that might be worth trying to tame.
Fifth Mix [Banana daiquiri]: this mix is an excellent 2.5D model for close character focused creations, with a focus on enhancing color depth, richness, and expressive lighting.
Fifth Mix [Absinthe]: This mix is a solid foundation for most furry needs, it was created specifically to enhance 2D/2.5D Anthro/Furry/Kemono related prompts and concepts while retaining a fairly neutral style. Absinthe for me has shown to be very capable at handling large, complex prompts, and able to load up several LoRAs at once without breaking easily.
Fifth Mix [Paradise]: Is the little sister to Absinthe being virtually identical in mix composition, and having very similar outputs. The goal for Paradise was to have something with a strong foundation, but present a soft, kawii aesthetic. (Sic. Better tuned for Kemono.)
Your prompts seem different than most models?
I use currently use ReForge with tag-autocomplete, and prefer using e621 tags where possible. Every model has it's own unique ways being best prompted and it's why my prompting changes so much between models. I encourage you to experiment, be creative, use your imagination! try prompting in whatever way you're most comfortable with. I use the prompts and structure I've found to give me the results I'm looking for on each model, though that may not always be ideal for you.
Artist tags?
Yes, many popular artist tags on Danbooru and e621 should work across Illustrious models, though I can not adequately comment on if a specific artist tag works with any Fifth Mix mix.
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Settings for [Vieux Carré]
Recommended minimum positive prompt:
I personally recommend putting this at or near the end of your prompts.
very awa, masterpiece, best quality, absurd res, hi res, newest, new,
Extra Positive prompt(s):
digital media \(artwork\), digital drawing \(artwork\), 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, hdr, 4k, 8k,
Recommended minimum negative prompt:
worst quality, low quality, low res, compression artifacts, old, oldest, early, ai generated,
Extra Negative prompt(s):
1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, traditional media \(artwork\), painting \(artwork\),
signature, watermark, artist name, character name, patreon username, patreon logo, url, blurry,
recommended settings:
CFG: 4-5
Sampler & Schedule: Euler A Comfy - Align Your Steps 32
Sampling Steps: 20 - 60
Supported resolutions + raw upscaled resolutions.
Note: Raw upscaling is unstable, and may cause significant errors.
[Vieux Carré] is more stable at 1.25x than (Betamix), and I personally only gen at 1.25x resolution now.
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LoRA compatibility with [Vieux Carré](Betamix)?
Fifth Mix [Vieux Carré](Betamix) is my first [NoobAI] (v-pred) model, however I've been using it since April with all sorts of LoRAs thrown at it for compatibility testing without much of any issues.
While I can't promise every LoRA you love will work here, I can state that I've seen broad compatibility with [Illustrious], [NoobAI], (v-pred) or (eps). Generally it'll just require changing the weight of the LoRA to get the desired results. Don't be shy, give it a try. 💖
Settings for [Vieux Carré](Betamix)
Note: Depending on the length and complexity of your prompts, moving the recommended prompt to the end might enhance it. It's been situational for me, but I've noticed better results with all the detail enhancing and quality tags at the end.
Prompt Base:
Pos+
masterpiece, best quality, absurd res, hi res, newest, new,
Neg-
worst quality, low quality, low res, compression artifacts, old, oldest, early, ai generated
Neg- (Extra; these aren't always needed, but can help if you're getting signatures/watermarks in some images)
signature, watermark, artist name, character name, patreon username, patreon logo, url, blurry,
Other tags I like: (Pos or Neg)
digital media \(artwork\), digital drawing \(artwork\)
traditional media \(artwork\), painting \(artwork\)
recommended settings:
CFG: 3-6
Sampler & Schedule: Eular A - Automatic
Sampler & Schedule: Kohaku_LoNyu_Yog - KL Optimal
Sampling Steps: 20 - 60
Supported resolutions + raw upscaled resolutions.
Note: Raw upscaling is unstable, and may cause significant errors.
Some known issues/limitations present in (Betamix):
Feral in gen: While fairly rare, there's very little I could do to correct this, it's a small issue baked into some of the models used for mixing. While it only tends to show up in limited situations, it can be irritating having an otherwise great gen ruined by it.
Possible fix(s): Use the base resolution, or longer prompts that lower emphasis on the species, this seems to help, but not totally eliminate the issue.
You may also wish to try some of the fallowing negative prompts if it's enough of an issue
micro feral, feral, holding feral, holding animal, inset, cutaway, mascot, chibi, smaller feral,
Barring that, sadly, inpainting might be the only real fix.
Symbols of emotions: A more common issue, but it's been easy for me to filter it out with prompts.
Possible fix(s): Here's the Danbooru list of emotion symbols if you want to prompt for/remove them
^^^, +++, puff of air, Anger vein, Spoken anger vein, Blush, Spoken blush, Heart, Arrow through heart, Broken heart, Spoken heart, Notice lines, Shout lines, Smiley face, Squiggle, Spoken squiggle, Sweatdrop, Comedic sweatdrop, Flying sweatdrops, Spoken sweatdrop, Squeans
Notice lines - shows up the most, and also keeping this in the negative can do some heavy lifting to remove most unwanted floating emotion symbols
Backgrounds: if no background prompt is given, it will default to white or some kind of simple letterbox. Overall, backgrounds are hit or miss on quality.
common interior settings, such as bedrooms, or other domestic interior settings tend to be higher quality, sharp, clean, and well detailed.
less common backgrounds can be blurry or have strange artificing, best to seek out some background LoRA's or use other tools.
burry eyes/details: This is sadly more common than I'd like, and the best solutions I've got for it are, sadly just as common...
Use ADetailer
Use inpainting
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